Re: Rev. Valladar's Space Lottery
Mark Reiff wrote:
> FYI,
>
> In case it isn't obvious to everyone here this Rev. Valladar is likely
> an Internet version of a con artist. This is the contact info. (likely
> a P.O. Box) from the web site:
>
> > "Church of the Founding Fathers"
> > c/o Rev. Ikos Valladar
> > 2318 2nd Ave. #620
> > Seattle, Washington 98121
>
> If anyone in Seattle would like to check this out with the Seattle
> B.B.B. or appropriate authorities it would be appreciated.
>
> I really doubt that this guy has been working with Gene Meyers (Gene may
> be misguided, but I don't think he would stoop to this guy's level) or
> any other legitimate space entrepreneurs or organizations that he
> references on his web site. He just identified an audience willing to
> act on their emotions on the chance of going into space. If this guy is
> legit, then he should be able to produce some form of non-profit
> fundraising identification issued by Washington state or the I.R.S.
>
> Mark Reiff
>
> PS: These are exactly the types of characters that I predicted that
> would be attracted to a "space lottery" scheme like SpaceShare, that Dr.
> Buzz Aldrin proposed in his book "Encounter with Tiber". Not that it
> can't be worked out, but care need to be taken so that people are not
> "taken."
>
> =================
>
> Rev. Ikos Valladar wrote:
> >
> > >You should contact Gene Meyers of Spacelife Publishing
> > >P.O. Box 814 WestCovina CA 91793. His father was a pioneer of this
> > >concept. Sorry
> >
> > As a matter of fact, Gene and I have been in touch quite a lot of late and
> > he and I will be working the talk show circuit starting in February. He was
> > on Art Bell recently and will be on again shortly. I have been getting
> > quite a few raffle tickets sold and will be conducting a campaign to get
> > everyone going on this project.
> >
> > I expect to sell between 100 and 200 million tickets by the turn of the
> > Millenium. After providing for the cost of Space trips for the winners, the
> > remainder will be invested in Space Enterprises and all ticket owners will
> > get a return on each ticket every year.
> >
> > I hope you will put a link on your space pages to our page at
> > http://www.space.org/community/fcis/raffle.html
> > >
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> Mark Reiff <mreiff1@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Gratuitous political statement, look here ->
> <http://www.earthlink.net/~markreiff/pork.jpg>
> "I think we are all trying too hard to push space
> versus finding the pulls that attract people and their money."
> "The heavens reward great deeds, not excuses."
>
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Not an unfair request. If this is your religion, how about a legit certification?
References:
Re: First Words
From: "Rev. Ikos Valladar" <ikos@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Re: First Words
From: "Rev. Ikos Valladar" <ikos@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Re: Rev. Valladar's Space Lottery
From: Mark Reiff <mreiff1@xxxxxxxxxx>
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